Wally Bock and I connected recently to share our favorite, little-known books. Wally dipped into the time-line a bit with a title from Edward de Bono, and I tackled a recent leadership release from MIT Press. We make a case for both books and even offer up possible pairings for our selections! And yes, along the way, we digress, argue, and have some great fun. Enjoy the talk, and let us know your favorite little-known reads.

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Art introduces the theme for this podcast and shares that Wally and I don’t share our ideas ahead of the recording…making for some interesting moments! (1:00)

Wally clarifies what we mean by great books no one knows or talks about regularly. He introduces his choice: Tactics: The Art and Science of Success by Edward de Bono. (2:00)

Why Wally loves Tactics by de Bono. (3:30)

Art struggles to understand how Wally is positioning Tactics and Wally sets Art straight. (4:00)

Art asks Wally the provocative “What’s wrong with it?” question given that few are referencing or talking about it in this era. (7:14) Wally supplies his usual convincing answer!

Art shifts to the other end of the time-line and offers a current book that no one is talking about: Leading in the Digital World: How to Foster Creativity, Collaboration, and Inclusivity (Management on the Cutting Edge) (9:00)

Wally offers some thoughts on why Leading in the Digital World isn’t generating some noise and news.(12:00)

Art makes the case for Leading in the Digital World with a breakdown of the content and what he likes in the book. (13:24)

Wally and Art get into an argument over whether leadership has changed over time and what impact technology is placing on the evolution of leadership. (14:45)

Art raises some support for a need for leaders to adapt from General McChrystal’s book, Team of Teams. (17:45)

Wally pairs Tactics with Jack Canfield’s The Success Principles.

Art encourages you to consider Leading in a Digital World and we we wrap up! (20:45)