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		<title>By: Guest Post: Stop, Collaborate and Listen &#124; On Product Management</title>
		<link>http://artpetty.com/2009/06/25/collaboration-and-the-leader/#comment-15736</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest Post: Stop, Collaborate and Listen &#124; On Product Management</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] understanding the relationships required and how to actively sustain them.  In a recent post on collaboration and leadership, Art Petty stated, “it’s a lean, mean world right now, and the better you are able to find ways [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Guest Post: Stop, Collaborate and Listen &#171; On Product Management</title>
		<link>http://artpetty.com/2009/06/25/collaboration-and-the-leader/#comment-9447</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest Post: Stop, Collaborate and Listen &#171; On Product Management</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] understanding the relationships required and how to actively sustain them.  In a recent post on collaboration and leadership, Art Petty stated, “it’s a lean, mean world right now, and the better you are able to find ways [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Art Petty</title>
		<link>http://artpetty.com/2009/06/25/collaboration-and-the-leader/#comment-5287</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Petty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, thanks for as always insightful and provocative comments.  They make a great post on their own.  -Art</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew Meyer</title>
		<link>http://artpetty.com/2009/06/25/collaboration-and-the-leader/#comment-5286</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art,

Interesting observations.  To counter-balance them, let me offer a few reasons why leaders don&#039;t collaborate.

Time - If decision making is done via discussion/collaboration, it takes an ungodly amount of time.  The most frustrating thing in the world is when something has to be done by 4:00 and at 3 someone wants to debate it.

Responsibility - Collaborators can walk away if a decision goes badly.  They have their salaries, their vacation time and the anonymity of being a team member.  The leader has their name and reputation on the line.  For example, think of the Bulls in the &#039;90s.  There were three leaders, M. Jordan, S. Pippen and P. Jackson.   Yes there are people you know and they were absolutely necessary to succeed, but they were not in the decision making core.  They were team members, not leaders.

Human nature - If you take the risk and go through the agony of starting your own business, it&#039;s because you want to do something your own way.  If you want to be a leader, by all means do so.  Know however that if you do, you have to have contextual understanding, ability,  responsibility and the power.  Those have to balance.  

Here&#039;s a dirty little secret.  It is much easier to earn $250,000 a year being a shrewd and capable team member who looks for the right opportunities and moves intelligently.  However, if you want to break $350,000 a year, you probably have to take some pretty big risks and spend a couple years earning much much less. 

Ability is a key word.  It has two parts.  One, native intelligence and talents.  Two, external or contextual opportunities.  i.e. environmental opportunities, financial freedom, path to develop contacts and outside infrastructure (legal frameworks, financing frameworks, distribution channels etc.).

And, of course, luck.

It is so much easier and for most people more profitable to find someone who has combined all these things and put together a business that is profitable than it is to have to do it all yourself.  There was one Michael Jordan and he probably had forty team members over the course of his championships.  It&#039;s much easier to be the team member than the leader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art,</p>
<p>Interesting observations.  To counter-balance them, let me offer a few reasons why leaders don&#8217;t collaborate.</p>
<p>Time &#8211; If decision making is done via discussion/collaboration, it takes an ungodly amount of time.  The most frustrating thing in the world is when something has to be done by 4:00 and at 3 someone wants to debate it.</p>
<p>Responsibility &#8211; Collaborators can walk away if a decision goes badly.  They have their salaries, their vacation time and the anonymity of being a team member.  The leader has their name and reputation on the line.  For example, think of the Bulls in the &#8217;90s.  There were three leaders, M. Jordan, S. Pippen and P. Jackson.   Yes there are people you know and they were absolutely necessary to succeed, but they were not in the decision making core.  They were team members, not leaders.</p>
<p>Human nature &#8211; If you take the risk and go through the agony of starting your own business, it&#8217;s because you want to do something your own way.  If you want to be a leader, by all means do so.  Know however that if you do, you have to have contextual understanding, ability,  responsibility and the power.  Those have to balance.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a dirty little secret.  It is much easier to earn $250,000 a year being a shrewd and capable team member who looks for the right opportunities and moves intelligently.  However, if you want to break $350,000 a year, you probably have to take some pretty big risks and spend a couple years earning much much less. </p>
<p>Ability is a key word.  It has two parts.  One, native intelligence and talents.  Two, external or contextual opportunities.  i.e. environmental opportunities, financial freedom, path to develop contacts and outside infrastructure (legal frameworks, financing frameworks, distribution channels etc.).</p>
<p>And, of course, luck.</p>
<p>It is so much easier and for most people more profitable to find someone who has combined all these things and put together a business that is profitable than it is to have to do it all yourself.  There was one Michael Jordan and he probably had forty team members over the course of his championships.  It&#8217;s much easier to be the team member than the leader.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://artpetty.com/2009/06/25/collaboration-and-the-leader/#comment-5134</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! It&#039;s so funny how what you have listed are so true. That&#039;s why I sincerely believe that a leader must become a servant, a follower first before becoming a true leader. I believe that the lack of the ability to collaborate with others that leaders have come from pride. Becoming humble is such a vital characteristic of an effective leader, and there seems to be very few of these humble leaders in our world today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! It&#8217;s so funny how what you have listed are so true. That&#8217;s why I sincerely believe that a leader must become a servant, a follower first before becoming a true leader. I believe that the lack of the ability to collaborate with others that leaders have come from pride. Becoming humble is such a vital characteristic of an effective leader, and there seems to be very few of these humble leaders in our world today.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Petty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Petty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monica, your comments echo Mary Jo&#039;s on the competition front. This letting go of perceived power step is the one that I have observed so many backing away from and certainly fits my one scenario where the individual just could never do it. 

Perhaps a &quot;get over yourself&quot; campaign is in order here!  Thanks as always for sharing your insights and enthusiasm!  -Art</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monica, your comments echo Mary Jo&#8217;s on the competition front. This letting go of perceived power step is the one that I have observed so many backing away from and certainly fits my one scenario where the individual just could never do it. </p>
<p>Perhaps a &#8220;get over yourself&#8221; campaign is in order here!  Thanks as always for sharing your insights and enthusiasm!  -Art</p>
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		<title>By: Art Petty</title>
		<link>http://artpetty.com/2009/06/25/collaboration-and-the-leader/#comment-5122</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Petty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary Joe, you raise a great point.  Like most of us, I love competition in the market or on the court, and it is hard to shift gears.  I suppose the metaphor of a sports team where everyone executes a role in support of the overall team works for me.  Thanks for commenting!  -Art</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Joe, you raise a great point.  Like most of us, I love competition in the market or on the court, and it is hard to shift gears.  I suppose the metaphor of a sports team where everyone executes a role in support of the overall team works for me.  Thanks for commenting!  -Art</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
		<link>http://artpetty.com/2009/06/25/collaboration-and-the-leader/#comment-5121</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting over yourself as a leader may be easier said than done.  Especially when you have climbed up a ladder in a cut-throat environment.  Many leaders feel entitled and have a hard time letting go of perceived power.  Your post may not sound nice, but it is just about accurate with many corporate clients I have worked with.  Coaching collaboration is a tough one, and an important one to learn.  After the unlearning happens and the leaders are free to work with others it is a thing of beauty to see what they achieve.  So how can we get over ourselves and find ways to be more open to the world around?  That, my friend, is an art to be reckoned with!

Thanks for a great, thought provoking, irritatingly true post!  Now...back to work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting over yourself as a leader may be easier said than done.  Especially when you have climbed up a ladder in a cut-throat environment.  Many leaders feel entitled and have a hard time letting go of perceived power.  Your post may not sound nice, but it is just about accurate with many corporate clients I have worked with.  Coaching collaboration is a tough one, and an important one to learn.  After the unlearning happens and the leaders are free to work with others it is a thing of beauty to see what they achieve.  So how can we get over ourselves and find ways to be more open to the world around?  That, my friend, is an art to be reckoned with!</p>
<p>Thanks for a great, thought provoking, irritatingly true post!  Now&#8230;back to work!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jo Asmus</title>
		<link>http://artpetty.com/2009/06/25/collaboration-and-the-leader/#comment-5120</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Jo Asmus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art, this a thought-provoking post. 

I do think you have a point. However, in defense of leaders, collaboration is a tough sell.  Our entire economy, and the culture of our organizations has been set up for competition. How can we expect leaders to collaborate when they are surrounded by sports and war metaphors and their colleagues are out to &quot;kill the competition&quot;?  

Sad that a leader who wants to collaborate really has a tough road ahead. Nonetheless, I&#039;m a firm believer that this will change, and collaboration will (have to) become the norm in order for our organizations to thrive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art, this a thought-provoking post. </p>
<p>I do think you have a point. However, in defense of leaders, collaboration is a tough sell.  Our entire economy, and the culture of our organizations has been set up for competition. How can we expect leaders to collaborate when they are surrounded by sports and war metaphors and their colleagues are out to &#8220;kill the competition&#8221;?  </p>
<p>Sad that a leader who wants to collaborate really has a tough road ahead. Nonetheless, I&#8217;m a firm believer that this will change, and collaboration will (have to) become the norm in order for our organizations to thrive.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Petty</title>
		<link>http://artpetty.com/2009/06/25/collaboration-and-the-leader/#comment-5107</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Petty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garrick, thanks as well for adding your thoughtful comment.  I am not familiar w. Mr. Schein, but will check him out.  I wish I would have wrapped up my post as eloquently as you wrapped up your comment.  Well stated!  -Art</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garrick, thanks as well for adding your thoughtful comment.  I am not familiar w. Mr. Schein, but will check him out.  I wish I would have wrapped up my post as eloquently as you wrapped up your comment.  Well stated!  -Art</p>
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		<title>By: Garrick Throckmorton</title>
		<link>http://artpetty.com/2009/06/25/collaboration-and-the-leader/#comment-5103</link>
		<dc:creator>Garrick Throckmorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great &quot;unscientific observations!&quot; Each point resonated with what I see on a continual basis. I enjoy what Edgar Schein has to say regarding viewing collaboration as weakness from a consultants viewpoint. He describes the power that can be found by simply &quot;accessing your ignorance.&quot; If leaders could understand that accessing one&#039;s ignorance leads to trust/respect/creativity/learning/collaboration and ultimately enhanced outcomes, our organziations would all reach a new level of effectiveness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great &#8220;unscientific observations!&#8221; Each point resonated with what I see on a continual basis. I enjoy what Edgar Schein has to say regarding viewing collaboration as weakness from a consultants viewpoint. He describes the power that can be found by simply &#8220;accessing your ignorance.&#8221; If leaders could understand that accessing one&#8217;s ignorance leads to trust/respect/creativity/learning/collaboration and ultimately enhanced outcomes, our organziations would all reach a new level of effectiveness.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Petty</title>
		<link>http://artpetty.com/2009/06/25/collaboration-and-the-leader/#comment-5097</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Petty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manish, thanks for reading and commenting.  You are right, this does go well below the C-level.  I agree with your thoughts on the benefits of these individuals participating together in professional and civic groups.  -Art</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manish, thanks for reading and commenting.  You are right, this does go well below the C-level.  I agree with your thoughts on the benefits of these individuals participating together in professional and civic groups.  -Art</p>
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		<title>By: Manish Mohan</title>
		<link>http://artpetty.com/2009/06/25/collaboration-and-the-leader/#comment-5095</link>
		<dc:creator>Manish Mohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, very true. And this is not just for CxO positions but even if divisional/functional leaders work together. I think what will also help if leaders start networking and participating in various other community / professional committees. This will help leaders collaborate with other leaders without feeling threatened about their positions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, very true. And this is not just for CxO positions but even if divisional/functional leaders work together. I think what will also help if leaders start networking and participating in various other community / professional committees. This will help leaders collaborate with other leaders without feeling threatened about their positions.</p>
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